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Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #354] Wed, 24 May 2006 10:09 Go to next message
Gavin
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I have a custom Outlook Help Desk application that we use and have had no
problems with the application on Outlook 2000 - 2003. I am currently testing
this on Outlook 2007 and none of the code is working. Has anyone had an
opportunity to test this with some of your forms? I have no problem opening
a form that has no code, but any form that has code behind it does not work
correctly. Any help on this would be great. Obviously this is not going to
be an issue for quite a while but I want to start making sure that I get
this working with the new version.

Thanks
Gavin...
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #356] Wed, 24 May 2006 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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yup... the form is published and is working fine in production, are there
any specific settings in Outlook that may be preventing the code from
running?

Thanks
Gavin...

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> It works here in beta 2 Outlook 2007. Did you make sure the form was
> published? It won't run code if it isn't and if the form is one-offed. I
> just put a MsgBox in the Open event handler for a form.
>
> --
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
> news:OHxaMT1fGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I have a custom Outlook Help Desk application that we use and have had no
>>problems with the application on Outlook 2000 - 2003. I am currently
>>testing this on Outlook 2007 and none of the code is working. Has anyone
>>had an opportunity to test this with some of your forms? I have no problem
>>opening a form that has no code, but any form that has code behind it does
>>not work correctly. Any help on this would be great. Obviously this is not
>>going to be an issue for quite a while but I want to start making sure
>>that I get this working with the new version.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gavin...
>>
>
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #358] Wed, 24 May 2006 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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Actually after digging into this a little further it appears that the code
is working however I have several frames in the form that are not showing
up... I also have the forms password protected and I am not getting prompted
for the password either. Is there any new documentation on the forms in
2007?

Thanks
Gavin...


"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
news:ONPvPW2fGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> yup... the form is published and is working fine in production, are there
> any specific settings in Outlook that may be preventing the code from
> running?
>
> Thanks
> Gavin...
>
> "Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:exwMlk1fGHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It works here in beta 2 Outlook 2007. Did you make sure the form was
>> published? It won't run code if it isn't and if the form is one-offed. I
>> just put a MsgBox in the Open event handler for a form.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Slovak
>> [MVP - Outlook]
>> http://www.slovaktech.com
>> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
>> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
>> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>>
>>
>> "Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
>> news:OHxaMT1fGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I have a custom Outlook Help Desk application that we use and have had no
>>>problems with the application on Outlook 2000 - 2003. I am currently
>>>testing this on Outlook 2007 and none of the code is working. Has anyone
>>>had an opportunity to test this with some of your forms? I have no
>>>problem opening a form that has no code, but any form that has code
>>>behind it does not work correctly. Any help on this would be great.
>>>Obviously this is not going to be an issue for quite a while but I want
>>>to start making sure that I get this working with the new version.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Gavin...
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #360] Wed, 24 May 2006 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kenslovak
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Nothing new that I've seen other than the stuff on forms regions.

I would try a brand new form and start replicating your old one. Just to
eliminate any possible problems with an older form. Then post any bugs you
find here and one of us will log them as bugs for Outlook 2007 if they can
be reproduced. If they are bugs you'll have to live with them until a
refresh comes out if at all or until RTM.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
news:%23moIHa2fGHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Actually after digging into this a little further it appears that the code
> is working however I have several frames in the form that are not showing
> up... I also have the forms password protected and I am not getting
> prompted for the password either. Is there any new documentation on the
> forms in 2007?
>
> Thanks
> Gavin...
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #361] Wed, 24 May 2006 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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Yup all the boxes are checked, this is published in the OFL, it appears that
none of the controls on the forms are showing up. I have tap strips, frames
and command buttons and they are not there.

Thanks
Gavin...

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23kqPdZ2fGHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Depends where it's published and where it's running. I tested using a form
> published to my personal forms library. Is this one published in a public
> folder or in use in a shared or public folder? If so Tools, Trust Center,
> E-mail Security section is where to look. See if the checkboxes at the
> bottom of that section are checked.
>
> Also, create a simple dummy form as I did with just a MsgBox in Open and
> publish it and see if that works.
>
> --
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
> news:ONPvPW2fGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> yup... the form is published and is working fine in production, are there
>> any specific settings in Outlook that may be preventing the code from
>> running?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gavin...
>
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #362] Wed, 24 May 2006 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kenslovak
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When I get a chance I'll play with a custom form published in my OFL. Are
you using the Forms 2.0 controls on your form or some other ActiveX
controls?

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
news:%23Mi5Ti2fGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yup all the boxes are checked, this is published in the OFL, it appears
> that none of the controls on the forms are showing up. I have tap strips,
> frames and command buttons and they are not there.
>
> Thanks
> Gavin...
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #363] Wed, 24 May 2006 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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I am using the Forms 2.0 controls, if I manually add them into the form
again it does save them, however this would be a huge project if I have to
recreate all the forms that I am using for my help desk. I will continue to
play around, hopefully there is just a setting that I am missing. I will
continue to post to the group with any new news.

Thanks
Gavin...

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%2367MAs2fGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> When I get a chance I'll play with a custom form published in my OFL. Are
> you using the Forms 2.0 controls on your form or some other ActiveX
> controls?
>
> --
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Mi5Ti2fGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Yup all the boxes are checked, this is published in the OFL, it appears
>> that none of the controls on the forms are showing up. I have tap strips,
>> frames and command buttons and they are not there.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gavin...
>
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #364] Wed, 24 May 2006 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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Registered: May 2006
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More more thing, I don't see the option anymore to protect the form, I also
have seperate compose and read pages and when I switch from compose to read
everything is greyed out and I cannot modify the page.

Thanks
Gavin...

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%2367MAs2fGHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> When I get a chance I'll play with a custom form published in my OFL. Are
> you using the Forms 2.0 controls on your form or some other ActiveX
> controls?
>
> --
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Mi5Ti2fGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Yup all the boxes are checked, this is published in the OFL, it appears
>> that none of the controls on the forms are showing up. I have tap strips,
>> frames and command buttons and they are not there.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gavin...
>
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #365] Wed, 24 May 2006 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kenslovak
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I can switch from compose to read and back again with no problems and edit
in either mode. No protection properties though. What message class is your
form?

I have some questions in with MS on the issues you've raised. I'll post back
here if and when I get any answers.

I can't even publish to my OFL, at least using my dog's sign-in alias to
Exchange. And he's an owner of the public folders on my EX 2003 server. I
get an error that there was an error going to that folder when I try to
publish to the OFL.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
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> More more thing, I don't see the option anymore to protect the form, I
> also have seperate compose and read pages and when I switch from compose
> to read everything is greyed out and I cannot modify the page.
>
> Thanks
> Gavin...
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #366] Wed, 24 May 2006 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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My message class is IPM.note and IPM.task, If I create a new form I do have
the option to switch back and forth from compose to read... the problem is
on the current form that I am using this is on both the classes.

Thanks for the help...

Gavin.

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23F2QlB3fGHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I can switch from compose to read and back again with no problems and edit
>in either mode. No protection properties though. What message class is your
>form?
>
> I have some questions in with MS on the issues you've raised. I'll post
> back here if and when I get any answers.
>
> I can't even publish to my OFL, at least using my dog's sign-in alias to
> Exchange. And he's an owner of the public folders on my EX 2003 server. I
> get an error that there was an error going to that folder when I try to
> publish to the OFL.
>
> --
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cu1R02fGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> More more thing, I don't see the option anymore to protect the form, I
>> also have seperate compose and read pages and when I switch from compose
>> to read everything is greyed out and I cannot modify the page.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gavin...
>
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #367] Wed, 24 May 2006 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kenslovak
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Registered: May 2006
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Protection has been removed. I have a bug on that.

Since protection was weak (the password could be circumvented if you knew
how) do you have a business case to make to get that added back in? Other
than keeping out the casual user, which I used as a business case along with
some company's requirements that all custom forms be password protected.
Anything else? I'm in a dialog with the owner of Outlook extensibility on
this so anything else would be helpful.

Publishing to the OFL is broken, I have a bug on that.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
news:OFGniw2fGHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I am using the Forms 2.0 controls, if I manually add them into the form
>again it does save them, however this would be a huge project if I have to
>recreate all the forms that I am using for my help desk. I will continue to
>play around, hopefully there is just a setting that I am missing. I will
>continue to post to the group with any new news.
>
> Thanks
> Gavin...
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #368] Wed, 24 May 2006 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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The only reason was to keep out the regular user from modifying the form,
not that they could make any changes since it was published in the OFL. If I
see any other issues I will post them here.

Thanks
Gavin...

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:O5HRbc3fGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Protection has been removed. I have a bug on that.
>
> Since protection was weak (the password could be circumvented if you knew
> how) do you have a business case to make to get that added back in? Other
> than keeping out the casual user, which I used as a business case along
> with some company's requirements that all custom forms be password
> protected. Anything else? I'm in a dialog with the owner of Outlook
> extensibility on this so anything else would be helpful.
>
> Publishing to the OFL is broken, I have a bug on that.
>
> --
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
> news:OFGniw2fGHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I am using the Forms 2.0 controls, if I manually add them into the form
>>again it does save them, however this would be a huge project if I have to
>>recreate all the forms that I am using for my help desk. I will continue
>>to play around, hopefully there is just a setting that I am missing. I
>>will continue to post to the group with any new news.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gavin...
>
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #369] Wed, 24 May 2006 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kenslovak
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Would the solution in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;190890 work for you
for forms protection?

It's a blanket solution however, you couldn't lock person A out of help desk
forms and not out of human resources forms. Sort of like taking a sledge
hammer to the problem.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
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> The only reason was to keep out the regular user from modifying the form,
> not that they could make any changes since it was published in the OFL. If
> I see any other issues I will post them here.
>
> Thanks
> Gavin...
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #372] Thu, 25 May 2006 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
suemvp
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How complex is the form? In the past, we've seen each successive version of Outlook be more sensitive to complex forms with a lot of controls and custom fields or formulas. Does a form with fewer controls work with fewer problems?

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message news:%23moIHa2fGHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Actually after digging into this a little further it appears that the code
> is working however I have several frames in the form that are not showing
> up... I also have the forms password protected and I am not getting prompted
> for the password either. Is there any new documentation on the forms in
> 2007?
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #374] Thu, 25 May 2006 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gavin
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It appears that way, this is actually the Help Desk App that was orriginaly
developed by MS, what we have done is taken the application and modified it
to fit our environment so there has been some customization to the forms. I
have several other forms that are working fine but they are not as complex
as the Help Desk App.

Thanks
Gavin...



"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" <suemvp@outlookcode.com> wrote in message
news:uroVHMAgGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
How complex is the form? In the past, we've seen each successive version of
Outlook be more sensitive to complex forms with a lot of controls and custom
fields or formulas. Does a form with fewer controls work with fewer
problems?

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Gavin" <gavin.rossnospam@stewart.com> wrote in message
news:%23moIHa2fGHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Actually after digging into this a little further it appears that the code
> is working however I have several frames in the form that are not showing
> up... I also have the forms password protected and I am not getting
> prompted
> for the password either. Is there any new documentation on the forms in
> 2007?
Re: Outlook 2007 Beta Question [message #376] Fri, 26 May 2006 07:28 Go to previous message
kenslovak
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Form protection in the form of passwords has been removed permanently it
seems. So that's out the window if you use it.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
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